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Christians in the lands of the Koran
With Jesus in the midst of Islam
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«I always say with much love to the Jews: you like me are called to the faith in Jesus.As also the Muslims. Jesus truly calls everyone.
And His is not a new religion against those before or after. He is something else. Another thing». An interview with Grégoire III Laham, Patriarch of Antioch of the Greek-Melkites |
Interview with Paul Hinder by Gianni Valente
Widespread concern is again being focused on the present
condition and the destiny of the Christians in the Middle East. There are those who,
following the Pope, express in this way their anxiety about the tragedy and suffering
undergone by the helpless flock of Christ in the lands where Christianity began.
In other cases, the great zeal often appears predetermined by factors of cultural-political
alignment.
Few listen to the arguments and the reasons of the Arab
Christians. Few take as their starting point a look at what is happening in
the Middle Eastern powder keg.
Which is why it may be useful to listen to His
Beatitude Grégoire III Laham, Patriarch of Antioch of the
Greek-Melkites since 2000.
What is happening in Iraq appears to many as the
epicenter of a larger phenomenon: the disappearance of Christians from the
whole Middle East.
GRÉGOIRE III LAHAM: Jesus told us not to be
afraid. And we are always on the point of being afraid. But a pastor must
encourage his people. We cannot fall into panic. In Iraq there is a
terrible situation of crime, revenge and terror. What is happening to
others is happening to the Christians. Here in Syria a million and a half
Iraqi refugees have arrived, and the Christians are a small minority of
them. It means that everybody is running away from there. I know that some
in the West are playing on these things. But it doesn’t seem to me
useful to the Christians here to attempt to isolate their suffering from
those of the others.
The war has also brought persecution, the Chaldean
Patriarch Emmanuel III Delly has said.
GRÉGOIRE III: Every approach to the problems
here that does not start out from solidly political criteria rebounds on
us. That happened in Iraq. The Americans arrived almost with the declared
attempt of a new crusade, to change the face of the Middle East. Now in
Lebanon I hear even the soldiers of the UNIFIL being branded as
“crusaders”. And the Christians always get associated with
these western strategies. In the letter of last Christmas I wrote:
“Dear Muslims, we cannot bear that there be some among you who
describe us as allies of the “crusaders”. We live, we work, we
fight with you. We are constructing with you the future of these
nations”.
In certain analyses the Middle East is described tout court as a place of
persecution of the Christians.
GRÉGOIRE III: Here in Syria the government
treats the churches as it treats the mosques. We are exempt from the
payment of electricity and other utilities. Last year, a presidential
decree approved by Parliament established that the Catholics may follow
their own legal rules on issues that involve individual rights like those
of marriage and inheritance. In practice they have taken the Canon Law of
the Eastern Churches and passed it over into the civil law. Once or twice a
year I go with my vicar general to meet president Assad and his
collaborators. He decided to lunch with all the patriarchs and heads of the
Churches for Easter. We speak about politics, including relations between
East and the West. And then ministers, parliamentarians, sheiks come to
visit us.
Syria is supposed to be a rogue state. But when
Christians are in flight in the Middle East they often flee to Damascus.
GRÉGOIRE III: Here there is the best situation
in all the Middle East for us. We pray that it remain so. There is always
the danger that all this may get destabilized, maybe by those who want to
force things so as to create a new power situation in the area.
Is there also in Syria an increase in religious
fundamentalism among the people?
GRÉGOIRE III: There is the fundamentalist
contagion that is recorded all over the world, not only in the Middle East.
Here in Syria the government is strong and tries to stem it. For example,
there is a lot of work in civics training done with youngsters. And also
the catechism and religious instruction, including ours, are subject to
checks by the Ministries of Education and Culture. A watch is kept to
ensure that they are inspired by mutual respect and coexistence, without
instigation to hatred and contempt for other religions. Our text has been
in force for more than forty years, a mixed commission of priests and
university professors from the various Churches under the supervision of
the Ministry of Education reviewed it in 2002. I’m very proud of it.
What criteria should, according to you, inspire the
attitude of Christians and the way they look on Muslim believers?
GRÉGOIRE III: They have told us at times in the
Vatican that we Eastern Christians must work with Islam to encourage human
rights, the emancipation of women, the defense of life, freedom of worship.
But what does it mean? We have a unique, specific relationship with Islam,
that it is not the one you have in Europe with the Muslim minorities. I
always say: we are the Church of Islam.
The expression appeals to you. You often use it.
GRÉGOIRE III: The Egyptian newspaper Al-Ahram has also said that
it’s the best formula for describing the common situation of the
Christians in the Arab countries and in the Middle East. Islam is the
context in which we live and with which we have historic sodality. We have
lived 1,400 years in the midst of them. We understand Islam from the
inside. When I hear a verse of the Koran, for me it is an expression of the
civilization to which I belong. And it is our task to witness to Christ in
the world of Islam. We have a unique responsibility. We can’t respond
as Cain does, when the Lord asks him where Abel is.
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Missionary strategies are not possible in the lands of
Islam.
GRÉGOIRE III: But one can make the most of every
human contact. Showing a Church that loves them. Making the most of all
possible affinities and sympathies. The Vatican departments can come out
with document after document. But then it’s up to us to witness to
Christ to our Muslim brothers in daily life.
Can you give some concrete examples?
GRÉGOIRE III: Once, at the end of Ramadan, the
Great Mufti of Damascus Ahmed Kaftaro invited me to preach from the pulpit
of the mosque. Also when I was in Jerusalem it happened many times that I
was received in the mosque, after Palestinian demonstrations. Being the
Church of Islam also means this.
Meanwhile, in the West, the voices of those who claim
that violence is an element rooted in the very nature of Islam are getting
louder.
GRÉGOIRE III: They are travesties using as
pretext a misreading of the Regensburg speech that the Pope himself has
gainsaid. Even the quotation from Manuel Paleologos, that stirred up such
violent reaction, was an extrapolation from the very long disputation
between the emperor and the Muslim sage, that lasted for days. There was no
intention in the Pope to offend Islam. And for that matter even the Gospel
can be the object of malign and misleading manipulation. For example when
Jesus says: «I come not to bring peace but the sword».
The western intellectuals who take the hard line with
Islam go so far as to say that «our God is not their God...».
GRÉGOIRE III: With our Muslim brothers I would
avoid inconclusive theological arguments attempting to establish whether we
adore the same God or not. They seem to me the stuff of the theological
academy. The mystery of God is so great, we can’t comprehend it.
Before it we exclaim: how beautiful! But what do I comprehend of this
beauty, what do I comprehend of God? When we profess the mystery of the
Trinity, the beauty of this mystery may even move and surprise others. But
then it’s not up to us to “demonstrate” this mystery. One
is in danger of being reckless. So, better to keep to the indications of
Vatican Council II: «The Church looks with respect also on the
Muslims who worship the only God», who, although «they do not
acknowledge Jesus as God, venerate him however as prophet; they honor his
virgin mother, Mary, and sometimes also invoke her with devotion».
For that matter, neither does Judaism recognize the Trinity and the
divinity of Jesus, Son of God.
At times the Churches of the East are presented as
pockets of anti-Semitism.
GRÉGOIRE III: The very opposite is true. I
always say with much love to the Jews: you like me are called to the faith
in Jesus. As also the Muslims. Jesus truly calls everyone. And His is not a
new religion against those before or after. He is another thing. Something
else, as the English say.
As to relations with the Christian Orthodox, some years
ago a return to full communion between your Church and the Orthodox
patriarchy of Antioch was suggested, as a local experiment in
reconciliation.
GRÉGOIRE III: We worked on that with too much
euphoria perhaps, as if it could be achieved from one day to the next.
Patriarch Maximos, my predecessor, was already old. A call came from Rome:
continue your discussions, but don’t come to any definitive results
in the theological sphere without agreement with the Holy See.
Unfortunately our hierarchy took it as a stop sign. And now the thing has
been shelved. But we do, however, have fraternal relations with the
Orthodox, including shared clergy retreats.
What do you think are the prospects for the ongoing
Catholic-Orthodox discussions on the subjects of collegiality and the
primacy?
GRÉGOIRE III: The Orthodox Church cannot accept
Roman ecclesiology as such. It must be understood that the ecclesiology
developed in the Latin Church cannot be imposed on Eastern Christians. They
can accept the primacy of the Pope as titular of the prima sedes and as last recourse.
But not the praxis of centralism without real collegiality. If Rome wants
to go ahead it should take up the formulas that Ratzinger set out in the
’seventies on relations with the Churches of the East.
On the Catholic side, even in terms of the dialogue
with the Orthodox, the starting point is often the relationship between
universal Church and local Church.
GRÉGOIRE III: The universal Church is not the
sum of many local Churches. And it isn’t even an abstract concept.
The Church of Christ exists concretely in a determined place. Pope Saint
Clement headed his letter «From the Church of God, that dwells in
Rome, to the Church of God, that dwells in Corinth». In no way did he
write to the “local” Church of Corinth. Where there are the
sacraments, the faith, the Creed, what’s lacking? There’s also
the Pope, because the bishop or the parish priest who celebrates the
Eucharist is in communion with the Pope. The Church, one, holy, catholic
and apostolic is present even in a little parish where the priest
celebrates the mass in front of one or two faithful. It isn’t that
there is “more” Church if all the bishops gather in a Council.
A drop of seawater has all the elements of the rest of the water in the
sea. Therefore every Church in a determined place has all the elements of
the only Church of Christ.
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 | | The Patriarch of Antioch of the Greek-Melkites Grégoire III | | |
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What would you answer to those who say that the Eastern
Catholic Churches are an obstacle to reconciliation with the Orthodox?
GRÉGOIRE III: The Eastern Catholic Churches
become a problem above all because the Orthodox see the treatment they
receive at times. They are defined as Churches sui
iuris, but then it’s not acknowledged that
the patriarch is head and father of his Church. Bishops are nominated for
our communities of the diaspora, for example in the countries of America,
and we have no voice in the decisions. Our bishops receive forms in which
they are asked: under which Congregation do you come? Goodness knows what
the Orthodox patriarchs and metropolitans would think of it: I, patriarch,
I bishop, “come under” a Vatican office? What does it mean?
It is said of the Eastern Churches: too many curias,
jealous of their prerogatives, and few believers, always fewer. Division
displayed precisely where the Christian minorities should unite. What do
you think of that objection?
GRÉGOIRE III: In Italy also there are tiny
dioceses. And then there is an element here of tradition that should be
respected. A community of Syro-Catholics or Orthodox faithful, however
small, cannot be assimilated to the Greek-Orthodox, the Latins, the
Chaldeans. Go and hear their liturgies, listen to their hymns... At Vatican
II there were already people who pulled out the idea: let’s unite all
the Christians of a country under a single rite and a single bishop or
patriarch. In Lebanon the Maronite, in Syria the Melkite, in Egypt the
Copt... But only those who look from a remove, with an accountant’s
eye rather than a pastor’s, could think of leveling such rich and
various traditions.
And to those who stigmatize your animosity to Rome,
what do you answer?
GRÉGOIRE III: We are in Damascus. Here, since
1724 when we again entered into communion with the Bishop of Rome, we were
outlawed for 120 years. The priests went to services with their vestments
hidden in baskets, entered houses and celebrated in whispers. We suffered a
lot to affirm our communion with the See of Rome. It is a sign of how much
we care about it.

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